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UK University vs NorthCentral, Touro and Nova -- Posted by Jack Wilton on 06-27-03 06:58
Hi. I trying to decide between a PhD at a UK university i.e London or
Susses... or doing in in US, DL, at NorthCentral, Touro or Nova. The
difference is that UK PhD is research based. No course work. You need to
work with a advisor, work on your research proposal, submit papers to
workshops/conferences etc and finally defend your thesis after several
years. The US universities have courses to take, then you have a year or
so to do a thesis.
I need you advise on the pros and cons of the two and what your experiences
are. Which of the two is better accepted in the market? for Academic and
Professional.
I appreciate anything you want to throw to this thread.
Re: UK University vs NorthCentral, Touro and Nova -- Posted by Rich Douglas on 06-27-03 12:24
You should find no trouble having a degree from a UK university accepted
here in the U.S. That said, earning a degree while living in the U.S. is a
difficult proposition; even getting admitted is hard. You'll find you'll
have to develop a relationship with a faculty member who will sponsor your
admission, develop your dissertation proposal, and negotiate your
residencies (there will be some in almost all cases).
Don't think there is no coursework for a UK doctorate. That is up to your
faculty advisor, who might prescribe any number of courses as he/she deems
necessary to prepare you to conduct what will be a much larger and more
comprehensive dissertation that normally required at U.S. schools.
The U.S. schools you list have open admissions; they accept pretty much all
qualified candidates. Also, you won't have to do much in the way of
describing your proposed research up front, certainly not to the extent of a
dissertation proposal.
UK Pros: Cost, short residencies
UK Cons: Almost indecipherable admission process, a great deal of proposal
work up front, travel to the U.K. one or more times, need to study full-time
is possible and not easy to anticipate prior to admission, master/slave
relationship with your advisor.
U.S. Pros: Admissions process is clearer; research proposed and conducted
after coursework, part-time study possible, lower travel costs
U.S. Cons: Expense, schools have lower prestige.
Good luck.
Rich Douglas
"Jack Wilton"
wrote in message
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> Hi. I trying to decide between a PhD at a UK university i.e London or
> Susses... or doing in in US, DL, at NorthCentral, Touro or Nova. The
> difference is that UK PhD is research based. No course work. You need to
> work with a advisor, work on your research proposal, submit papers to
> workshops/conferences etc and finally defend your thesis after several
> years. The US universities have courses to take, then you have a year or
> so to do a thesis.
>
> I need you advise on the pros and cons of the two and what your
experiences
> are. Which of the two is better accepted in the market? for Academic and
> Professional.
>
> I appreciate anything you want to throw to this thread.
>
>
>
>
Re: UK University vs NorthCentral, Touro and Nova -- Posted by Jack Wilton on 06-27-03 12:35
Excellent comments. Thank you.
Actually UK costs are probably same or higher than US costs for an overseas
student.
UK requires travel once a year, and travel costs to conferences (which is
mandatory).
But no course work (at least for me).
US is less costly, no mandatory conferences, and no residency. It's all done
via DL.
However, US schools have less prestige.
How important is that?
Thanks again.
"Rich Douglas" wrote in message
news:gS0La.32302$VQ6.25056@lakeread01...
> You should find no trouble having a degree from a UK university accepted
> here in the U.S. That said, earning a degree while living in the U.S. is
a
> difficult proposition; even getting admitted is hard. You'll find you'll
> have to develop a relationship with a faculty member who will sponsor your
> admission, develop your dissertation proposal, and negotiate your
> residencies (there will be some in almost all cases).
>
> Don't think there is no coursework for a UK doctorate. That is up to your
> faculty advisor, who might prescribe any number of courses as he/she deems
> necessary to prepare you to conduct what will be a much larger and more
> comprehensive dissertation that normally required at U.S. schools.
>
> The U.S. schools you list have open admissions; they accept pretty much
all
> qualified candidates. Also, you won't have to do much in the way of
> describing your proposed research up front, certainly not to the extent of
a
> dissertation proposal.
>
> UK Pros: Cost, short residencies
>
> UK Cons: Almost indecipherable admission process, a great deal of proposal
> work up front, travel to the U.K. one or more times, need to study
full-time
> is possible and not easy to anticipate prior to admission, master/slave
> relationship with your advisor.
>
> U.S. Pros: Admissions process is clearer; research proposed and conducted
> after coursework, part-time study possible, lower travel costs
>
> U.S. Cons: Expense, schools have lower prestige.
>
>
> Good luck.
>
> Rich Douglas
>
>
> "Jack Wilton" wrote in message
> news:vfojclj0i3pvcd@corp.supernews.com...
> > Hi. I trying to decide between a PhD at a UK university i.e London or
> > Susses... or doing in in US, DL, at NorthCentral, Touro or Nova. The
> > difference is that UK PhD is research based. No course work. You need to
> > work with a advisor, work on your research proposal, submit papers to
> > workshops/conferences etc and finally defend your thesis after several
> > years. The US universities have courses to take, then you have a year
or
> > so to do a thesis.
> >
> > I need you advise on the pros and cons of the two and what your
> experiences
> > are. Which of the two is better accepted in the market? for Academic
and
> > Professional.
> >
> > I appreciate anything you want to throw to this thread.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: UK University vs NorthCentral, Touro and Nova -- Posted by Dennis Ruhl on 06-27-03 16:24
A degree from the U of London would be top tier with great respect.
Nova, Touro and Northcental are fine programs but you are going to find
resistance, if looking for a job at a brick and mortar university.
No comparison.
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Re: UK University vs NorthCentral, Touro and Nova -- Posted by worthingco on 06-28-03 10:16
I agree with Dennis. U of L has an outstanding reputation and has been
in the DL business for a very long time. I'm biased though (currently
reg'd in the LLB External Degree Program).
I've also come across many positive comments about Touro.
The best of luck to you.
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Re: UK University vs NorthCentral, Touro and Nova -- Posted by Dennis Ruhl on 06-28-03 11:45
Also note that a large number of U of London students are full time
students in brick and mortar colleges whose degrees are granted by the
U of London.
I had a prof with a PhD from the London School of Economics. As it has
an excellent reputation of its own, he never mentioned the fact that
his degree, in fact, would have said U of London on it.
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